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	<title>Comments on: Parking: £2 for 2 hours at Sainsbury&#8217;s. Then it&#8217;s £50!</title>
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		<title>By: Kip Hakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kip Hakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These kind of crazy car park charges are becoming commonplace, Mike42 is correct and it&#039;s well worth fighting. I recently saw a story of a couple who had been in their local Homebase for a few hours, the reason, they spent a few thousand buying stuff for their new house. A few days later they got a parking ticket through the post for spending over two hours in the car park, despite complaining to the store manager with their receipt in hand he refused to do anything!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These kind of crazy car park charges are becoming commonplace, Mike42 is correct and it&#39;s well worth fighting. I recently saw a story of a couple who had been in their local Homebase for a few hours, the reason, they spent a few thousand buying stuff for their new house. A few days later they got a parking ticket through the post for spending over two hours in the car park, despite complaining to the store manager with their receipt in hand he refused to do anything!</p>
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		<title>By: Kip Hakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kip Hakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These kind of crazy car park charges are becoming commonplace, Mike42 is correct and it&#039;s well worth fighting. I recently saw a story of a couple who had been in their local Homebase for a few hours, the reason, they spent a few thousand buying stuff for their new house. A few days later they got a parking ticket through the post for spending over two hours in the car park, despite complaining to the store manager with their receipt in hand he refused to do anything!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These kind of crazy car park charges are becoming commonplace, Mike42 is correct and it&#39;s well worth fighting. I recently saw a story of a couple who had been in their local Homebase for a few hours, the reason, they spent a few thousand buying stuff for their new house. A few days later they got a parking ticket through the post for spending over two hours in the car park, despite complaining to the store manager with their receipt in hand he refused to do anything!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you receive a ticket in a private car park, such as a supermarket car park, or private multi-story car park, remember that it is not criminal law, but contract law that applies. The driver enters into a contract with the landowner when they driver into the car park.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is only the driver that can be subject to a ticket from a private company. If they do not know who the driver was, they cannot claim a penalty. They have no legal right to demand that you identify the driver. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Under contract law they can only claim for any loss they have suffered because of your offence. They may try to claim a penalty of, say, £100, but in law they may only be entitled to any revenue they had lost. So, if you pay £2 to park for one hour, but stay for three hours, they can only claim for two hours of lost revenue, which is £4.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think one of these has ever stood up in court, but because of the tactics they employ (big official-looking yellow tickets, wording almost identical to a proper council (&#039;Parking charge Notice&#039; = PCN, same as Penalty Charge Notice), bullying debit collectors etc) most people pay up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fight the bastards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you receive a ticket in a private car park, such as a supermarket car park, or private multi-story car park, remember that it is not criminal law, but contract law that applies. The driver enters into a contract with the landowner when they driver into the car park.</p>
<p>It is only the driver that can be subject to a ticket from a private company. If they do not know who the driver was, they cannot claim a penalty. They have no legal right to demand that you identify the driver. </p>
<p>Under contract law they can only claim for any loss they have suffered because of your offence. They may try to claim a penalty of, say, £100, but in law they may only be entitled to any revenue they had lost. So, if you pay £2 to park for one hour, but stay for three hours, they can only claim for two hours of lost revenue, which is £4.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think one of these has ever stood up in court, but because of the tactics they employ (big official-looking yellow tickets, wording almost identical to a proper council (&#39;Parking charge Notice&#39; = PCN, same as Penalty Charge Notice), bullying debit collectors etc) most people pay up.</p>
<p>Fight the bastards!</p>
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